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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi nyp.  This site is not a very busy site, so I would recommend you should be patient waiting for Erin&#039;s response to your post.  I love how you attack Erin for saying you&#039;re pimping Ezekiel by the way.  That&#039;s not hypocritical of you at all.  Also beautifully cliche liberal of you to immediately go to an Ad Hominem attack.  I wouldn&#039;t blame Erin for not replying to you at all, after all, this is her site and she doesn&#039;t need to dignify insults with a response if she chooses not to.

I can attempt to answer your liberal talking points.  Which is amusing as well, because you state you&#039;d love an adult conversation, but then spew only talking points instead of your own independent thoughts.
1.  Yes, he wrote about that.  He also wrote about forced sterilization and sterilizing agents in the drinking water.  Forced abortions, euthanasia and eugenics are some other things he wrote about, but inconvenient truths and liberals just never have gotten along.
2. You assume that the government can sustainably insure all 300 million of it&#039;s citizens and an additional 20 million illegal aliens without incurring massive new spending.  No rational, logical person can honestly believe that.  You believe the talk that there won&#039;t be rationing of care, but again logically, you simply cannot provide full service medical care to 300 million citizens with federal funds and not ration care.  Then there&#039;s the fact that there is rationing of care in both the UK and Canada as a result of socialized medicine, what would make us different? 
3. Here you again apply your narrow view, ignoring the rest of Ezekiel&#039;s insane writings to accuse Erin of being logically unsound.  Dr. Emmanuel is on record many times saying that people will be evaluated on a curve, the very young and very old being worth less than a middle aged person, and therefore receiving lower priority care.

Your problem is you believe only the talking points and refuse to open your eyes to the truth, like your fellow liberal ilk.  You believe what you&#039;re told and blindly follow Barry like he&#039;s a messiah.  You refuse to ask questions or think for yourself.  You refuse to do your own digging and learn.  Instead you twist Erin&#039;s words and distort facts to arrive at the logical conclusions you want, all so your messianic delusions about Barry and his thugs doesn&#039;t fall apart around you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi nyp.  This site is not a very busy site, so I would recommend you should be patient waiting for Erin&#8217;s response to your post.  I love how you attack Erin for saying you&#8217;re pimping Ezekiel by the way.  That&#8217;s not hypocritical of you at all.  Also beautifully cliche liberal of you to immediately go to an Ad Hominem attack.  I wouldn&#8217;t blame Erin for not replying to you at all, after all, this is her site and she doesn&#8217;t need to dignify insults with a response if she chooses not to.</p>
<p>I can attempt to answer your liberal talking points.  Which is amusing as well, because you state you&#8217;d love an adult conversation, but then spew only talking points instead of your own independent thoughts.<br />
1.  Yes, he wrote about that.  He also wrote about forced sterilization and sterilizing agents in the drinking water.  Forced abortions, euthanasia and eugenics are some other things he wrote about, but inconvenient truths and liberals just never have gotten along.<br />
2. You assume that the government can sustainably insure all 300 million of it&#8217;s citizens and an additional 20 million illegal aliens without incurring massive new spending.  No rational, logical person can honestly believe that.  You believe the talk that there won&#8217;t be rationing of care, but again logically, you simply cannot provide full service medical care to 300 million citizens with federal funds and not ration care.  Then there&#8217;s the fact that there is rationing of care in both the UK and Canada as a result of socialized medicine, what would make us different?<br />
3. Here you again apply your narrow view, ignoring the rest of Ezekiel&#8217;s insane writings to accuse Erin of being logically unsound.  Dr. Emmanuel is on record many times saying that people will be evaluated on a curve, the very young and very old being worth less than a middle aged person, and therefore receiving lower priority care.</p>
<p>Your problem is you believe only the talking points and refuse to open your eyes to the truth, like your fellow liberal ilk.  You believe what you&#8217;re told and blindly follow Barry like he&#8217;s a messiah.  You refuse to ask questions or think for yourself.  You refuse to do your own digging and learn.  Instead you twist Erin&#8217;s words and distort facts to arrive at the logical conclusions you want, all so your messianic delusions about Barry and his thugs doesn&#8217;t fall apart around you.</p>
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		<title>By: nyp10025</title>
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		<dc:creator>nyp10025</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - just crickets in here.  Oh well, at least I tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; just crickets in here.  Oh well, at least I tried.</p>
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		<title>By: nyp10025</title>
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		<dc:creator>nyp10025</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erin - I am pleased you havge chosen to engage on this.  There has been a great deal of shouting past one another on the topic of health reform, and not a lot of actual adult discussion. So it is good to see you making an on-point response, even if you felt you had add gratuitous snark at the end about my &quot;pimping&quot; for someone I have never met and to whom I have no connection.
Unfortunately, you continue to perpetuate nasty, unfair smears about a dedicated oncologist whom you nastily label a &quot;Death Czar.&quot;  Your logic is as follows:  1.  Dr. Emanuel wrote about the special case of how to allocate severely restricted numbers of transplant organs and vaccines among large numbers of eligible recipients.  2.  Providing health insurance reform will inevitably lead to &quot;continued financial woes&quot; because the government will engage in &quot;massive government spending&quot; on health care.  (I thought the problem would be that the government would spend too little rather than too much, but let that go for moment.)  3.  Ergo, Dr. Emanuel is in favor of applying to the entire American health care system the special allocation principles he suggested be applied to the unique cases of transplant organs and vaccines.  Erin, no fair-minded person reading this blog would accept such faulty logic. You have unfairly smeared a distinguished healer who has spent most of his career wrestling with some of life&#039;s most intractable problems.  You and I might disagree on the best way to provide affordable health care to our fellow Americans.  But surely the decent thing to do is to simply acknowledge that calling Dr. Emanuel a &quot;Death Czar&quot; and claiming that his paper on transplant organs System”  is actually a plan &quot;for selecting which sections of the population should be killed&quot; was horribly unfair and that false witness should not be borne against a distinguished doctor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin &#8211; I am pleased you havge chosen to engage on this.  There has been a great deal of shouting past one another on the topic of health reform, and not a lot of actual adult discussion. So it is good to see you making an on-point response, even if you felt you had add gratuitous snark at the end about my &#8220;pimping&#8221; for someone I have never met and to whom I have no connection.<br />
Unfortunately, you continue to perpetuate nasty, unfair smears about a dedicated oncologist whom you nastily label a &#8220;Death Czar.&#8221;  Your logic is as follows:  1.  Dr. Emanuel wrote about the special case of how to allocate severely restricted numbers of transplant organs and vaccines among large numbers of eligible recipients.  2.  Providing health insurance reform will inevitably lead to &#8220;continued financial woes&#8221; because the government will engage in &#8220;massive government spending&#8221; on health care.  (I thought the problem would be that the government would spend too little rather than too much, but let that go for moment.)  3.  Ergo, Dr. Emanuel is in favor of applying to the entire American health care system the special allocation principles he suggested be applied to the unique cases of transplant organs and vaccines.  Erin, no fair-minded person reading this blog would accept such faulty logic. You have unfairly smeared a distinguished healer who has spent most of his career wrestling with some of life&#8217;s most intractable problems.  You and I might disagree on the best way to provide affordable health care to our fellow Americans.  But surely the decent thing to do is to simply acknowledge that calling Dr. Emanuel a &#8220;Death Czar&#8221; and claiming that his paper on transplant organs System”  is actually a plan &#8220;for selecting which sections of the population should be killed&#8221; was horribly unfair and that false witness should not be borne against a distinguished doctor.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Emanuel writes about rationing medical resources in restricted resource scenarios.  Do you seriously think we aren&#039;t going to face continued financial woes in our economy due to massive government spending?  That such woes will not place us in a restricted-resource scenario?! The short-term &quot;fix&quot; (which hasn&#039;t fixed anything) is the enemy of the long-term solution.  It is an outright lie that 47m Americans are without health care. Those who want government to control Americans&#039; life and death include 20 millions illegals in that number---so 1) they are not Americans; 2) they are not entitled to benefits paid for by hardworking Americans.

They also include in that number people who are uninsured for even a month or two--as those who are switching jobs or those in the 18-34 range who choose not to purchase insurance. (Note, most of these people get health insurance when they change jobs or get married and have children.)

No one goes without treatment because they don&#039;t have insurance--hospitals are REQUIRED BY LAW to treat people. Many hospitals have gone bankrupt because of all the illegals coming across the border and getting treated and/or coming over and having their babies here.

If you don&#039;t believe the Lancet article shines enough light on the policies Dr. Emanuel advocates,  check out  another of his writings...The Ends of Human Life: Medical Ethics in a Liberal Polity,  where he advocates a commutarian system of health care delivery and panels who oversee life and death allocations of resources.  Before you pimp Ezekiel Emanuel...read what he writes.  Interestingly, at Amazon, the book most bought by people who buy Ezekiel&#039;s books is Saul Alinsky&#039;s &quot;Rules For Radicals&quot;--Obama, ACORN, the Tides Foundation etc.&#039;s bible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Emanuel writes about rationing medical resources in restricted resource scenarios.  Do you seriously think we aren&#8217;t going to face continued financial woes in our economy due to massive government spending?  That such woes will not place us in a restricted-resource scenario?! The short-term &#8220;fix&#8221; (which hasn&#8217;t fixed anything) is the enemy of the long-term solution.  It is an outright lie that 47m Americans are without health care. Those who want government to control Americans&#8217; life and death include 20 millions illegals in that number&#8212;so 1) they are not Americans; 2) they are not entitled to benefits paid for by hardworking Americans.</p>
<p>They also include in that number people who are uninsured for even a month or two&#8211;as those who are switching jobs or those in the 18-34 range who choose not to purchase insurance. (Note, most of these people get health insurance when they change jobs or get married and have children.)</p>
<p>No one goes without treatment because they don&#8217;t have insurance&#8211;hospitals are REQUIRED BY LAW to treat people. Many hospitals have gone bankrupt because of all the illegals coming across the border and getting treated and/or coming over and having their babies here.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t believe the Lancet article shines enough light on the policies Dr. Emanuel advocates,  check out  another of his writings&#8230;The Ends of Human Life: Medical Ethics in a Liberal Polity,  where he advocates a commutarian system of health care delivery and panels who oversee life and death allocations of resources.  Before you pimp Ezekiel Emanuel&#8230;read what he writes.  Interestingly, at Amazon, the book most bought by people who buy Ezekiel&#8217;s books is Saul Alinsky&#8217;s &#8220;Rules For Radicals&#8221;&#8211;Obama, ACORN, the Tides Foundation etc.&#8217;s bible.</p>
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		<title>By: nyp10025</title>
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		<dc:creator>nyp10025</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an unfair, misleading post. Dr. Emmanuel&#039;s article was limited to the special case where transplant organs or lifesaving vaccines are in short supply and there are more eligible recipients than there are organs or vaccines. Why did you deliberately choose not to mention that fact? Did you think it would be more or less misleading to not let your readers know that the Lancet article concerned only situations in which there are fewer available transplant organs or life-saving vaccines than there are recipients?  You also neglect to note that severe, unfair, arbitrary rationing occurs every single day in the American health care system because millions of American families do not have health insurance. Lose your job, and you lose your access to medical care. How can you possibly defend the justice of such a system? How could it possibly be more just than the current reform proposals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an unfair, misleading post. Dr. Emmanuel&#8217;s article was limited to the special case where transplant organs or lifesaving vaccines are in short supply and there are more eligible recipients than there are organs or vaccines. Why did you deliberately choose not to mention that fact? Did you think it would be more or less misleading to not let your readers know that the Lancet article concerned only situations in which there are fewer available transplant organs or life-saving vaccines than there are recipients?  You also neglect to note that severe, unfair, arbitrary rationing occurs every single day in the American health care system because millions of American families do not have health insurance. Lose your job, and you lose your access to medical care. How can you possibly defend the justice of such a system? How could it possibly be more just than the current reform proposals</p>
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		<title>By: Rahm’s Brother Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel: The Death Czar &#171; Conservative Thoughts and Profundity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rahm’s Brother Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel: The Death Czar &#171; Conservative Thoughts and Profundity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rahm’s Brother Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel: The Death&#160;Czar  Posted in rightsoup by nhiemstra on August 6, 2009   via: rightsoup [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lancet Survey - MightyRighty.com - Conservative News and Discussion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lancet Survey - MightyRighty.com - Conservative News and Discussion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lancet Survey      Definitely in the tank for Barky...  Lookity-look:  Rahm&#8217;s Brother Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel: The Death Czar &#124; Right Soup     __________________ GO GATORS!!! 2008 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lancet Survey      Definitely in the tank for Barky&#8230;  Lookity-look:  Rahm&#8217;s Brother Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel: The Death Czar | Right Soup     __________________ GO GATORS!!! 2008 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SiliconDoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>SiliconDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What surprise should there be ? None, really. The democrat party has professed murdering babies in the womb since the 70&#039;s. 
 Obama&#039;s buddy that launched his pol career Bill Ayers is one of our demostic Weathermen terrorists.
 The democrats love that life and death thing - kill babies, blow up &quot;the man&quot;, have endless communist ties and deny them, paint every republican a nazi when the dem policies murder more innocents RIGHT NOW than &quot;GWB&#039;s&quot; war (which the dems pushed and voted for under Clinton and Bush) did the whole time.
 These quotes come from LANCET JOURNAL - the same piece of lib trash deal that shrieked Bush murdered 1,000,000 Iraqis when the new Iraq government count was ~25,000 total.
 Our modern democrats are depraved, murderous, brainwashed, communist liars. Theyt are soooo smart, and soooo educated - they can murder babies and tell themselves and everyone else &quot;noone really knows if it is a human being&quot;.
 I&#039;ve had it with the democrats, the whole lot em, and the republicans are not far behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What surprise should there be ? None, really. The democrat party has professed murdering babies in the womb since the 70&#8217;s.<br />
 Obama&#8217;s buddy that launched his pol career Bill Ayers is one of our demostic Weathermen terrorists.<br />
 The democrats love that life and death thing &#8211; kill babies, blow up &#8220;the man&#8221;, have endless communist ties and deny them, paint every republican a nazi when the dem policies murder more innocents RIGHT NOW than &#8220;GWB&#8217;s&#8221; war (which the dems pushed and voted for under Clinton and Bush) did the whole time.<br />
 These quotes come from LANCET JOURNAL &#8211; the same piece of lib trash deal that shrieked Bush murdered 1,000,000 Iraqis when the new Iraq government count was ~25,000 total.<br />
 Our modern democrats are depraved, murderous, brainwashed, communist liars. Theyt are soooo smart, and soooo educated &#8211; they can murder babies and tell themselves and everyone else &#8220;noone really knows if it is a human being&#8221;.<br />
 I&#8217;ve had it with the democrats, the whole lot em, and the republicans are not far behind.</p>
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		<title>By: The Health Care Chart that Will Scare YOU to DEATH &#124; The Cassandra Effect</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Health Care Chart that Will Scare YOU to DEATH &#124; The Cassandra Effect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hat Tip to Rightsoup.com for their an excellent article Rahm’s Brother Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel: The Death Czar [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Communism + Nazis with a liberal splash of Mussolini...= approaching the Obama administration.  This is not a bad dream, folks.  Nip it. In the bud.  Now.  Vote them all out, if we must...and I&#039;m really thinking we must.  God have mercy on us all, because we desperately need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Communism + Nazis with a liberal splash of Mussolini&#8230;= approaching the Obama administration.  This is not a bad dream, folks.  Nip it. In the bud.  Now.  Vote them all out, if we must&#8230;and I&#8217;m really thinking we must.  God have mercy on us all, because we desperately need it.</p>
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